Thinking More About Feminization and Its Complexity
November 2, 2008
I wrote a post a couple months back about feminization, asking what the attraction is to it. Not a question asked in a negative tone, or me trying to say there is something wrong with it, or that I can’t see why anyone would be into it. I asked because I can imagine that the reasons are very diverse, covering not just guys into feminization in the sense of wanting to be female, but also those who want to be forced into it as more a masochistic turn on.
I think it’s obviously a complex subject, but also one where there is some conflict. For some, the attraction to feminization is liberating, nothing negative at all about it, but rather something very positive that’s longed for and healthy. While for others the attraction is rooted in masochism, with forced feminization, crossdressing and forced bisexuality feeding a sexual want to be abused and embarrassed. Something negative in the sense that the forced act is perceived as something shameful, but not at all negative in the end since it brings intense sexual enjoyment.
The contrast between the two I would think somewhat insulting to those who see feminization as a release from being trapped in a body they don’t feel is right for them. The idea that someone else engages in a mock version of what you are, and for what matter what you love, because they see it as disgustingly shameful and actually get sexually excited over that idea… I’m sure cross dressers, sissies and those actually going through feminization have learned to grow a thick skin, but still. I don’t think anyone would like the idea of even a beloved hobby, let alone a lifestyle, being seen as a bad joke to be engaged in only for the enjoyment of male humiliation.
Personally, I’m not into feminization. I don’t see myself as a girl inside and I have no desire to dress or act like one. I’m not attracted to guys either… though I’m sure my dwelling on this subject will make some wonder if I’m in some sort of denial LOL. It’s not that.
As a submissive male, I can understand the powerful effect of something like forced bi. Add to it forced feminization, and while dressing like a girl might not itself turn on the slave, the effect of being so “owned” by another person that she can transform you not just from free to property, but from male to female, is very powerful.
I have to say that being made to dress like a woman – really any degree of forced feminization – would be extremely humiliating to me. I mean that as no offense to the sissy crowd, it’s just that I am a man. A sissy sees himself as herself; not a man but a woman, so there is nothing humiliating there and that is “her” choice. I don’t see myself that way, but as someone experiencing male slave training, being so transformed would have a tremendous psychological effect. Female domination of a whole other kind, providing a deeper sense of objectification and loss of individuality through both embarrassment and replacement of identity with that chosen by another. Add forced bi to the feminization and the “dress” becomes more than just a surface coating but something extremely real. Being forced to be the “girl” in a bisexual act with another man, or a dominant woman armed with a strapon, is a level of vulnerability and submission men normally never face in sex.
Not done with this yet, I’ll post more later -
BTW, here’s a link to a Free Forced Bi Audio that Domina Amanda recorded.
- maleslave
Feminization, Sissies, etc., What’s the “Why”?
July 22, 2008
I started writing my last post with the intention of talking about some of the sissy audio clips Domina Amanda has done, and then some of my own thoughts about feminization, sissies, fetish behavior relating to it. Or actually, not so much thoughts as questions.
That post turned into an epic, so I moved my rambling over here to a new entry.
Let me state first that everything I’ve written here is me, not me repeating anything Domina Amanda has said. This doesn’t really have anything to do with her. These are only my thoughts.
I’m not into feminization myself, and I’m not saying that to hide a closet attraction. I’m not making fun of the whole sissy boy thing either, but it does seem strange to me. I’m not planning to ridicule it or question its validity at all all, I’m really just wondering about it and those into it.
What makes them interested in this. I know for some its to do with nature, while others a sexual fetish, and perhaps for some it’s a mix of both. I don’t think my thoughts and questions are so much towards the general transgender crowd, I’ll try to explain what I’m thinking.
I suppose I can see why some guys are into dressing like women. Some might be gay or bisexual, others might have a shemale fantasy where they are sorta both (I think the correct word is transgender or transvestite but I‘ve never seen shemale as offensive personally, not that my opinion matters since I‘m not one. Makes me think of those Brazilian shemales that look better than many girls do. Guess when you want something you don‘t take it for granted like some, and work harder at what you desire), while there are those too who are born male but feel much more in common and comfortable with being female (I think that with all the variations nature creates we can‘t say such tendencies are always “choice“. It stands to reason some people would be born this way, just like so many other possibilities). So it might not be the usual thing we are used to, but I can’t say it makes no sense, especially if it makes sense to those doing it.
And I know that not all sissies or cross dressers, or even shemales are homosexual. Many are straight in that while they dress or behave like women, they aren’t attracted to men (though I guess that would make them gay in a sense, just sorta lesbian in a way?). I know I’m probably not phrasing things right or the way its supposed to be said, but it’s a complex issue and I’m not overly familiar with it.
And these people aren’t all sissies. That‘s a separate group under the same general heading. There is a similarity in their appreciation of the female, but to lump all together would be confuse things.
I guess it’s not that cross dresser or transgender seems odd to me. Those who want to be the opposite sex in a way that reflects women in the common way we see them every day. Like dressing and behaving as women really do. That makes sense in a way, because its something we see, and would fit the idea of someone who feels they are of that sex and what that sex really is.
It’s more the extreme or overblown version that is femme but not really female as we usually see it. Like I said I’m not seeking to make fun of it, more wondering what’s the attraction and where does it come from. I mean it’s not even really female its something female-like, so where does the attraction and idea come from.
Like the sissy little girl style thing. Grown men dressing up not so much like women but some kinda caricature of women where they are way overly femme and prissy, or even somewhat childlike in costume form. What is the “why” behind that. Like what’s the turn on and fascination, because I know that those who love this fetish really get into it deeply.
And there is such a range to what all of these people like. Sissy behavior being the common link, but some want it to be forced feminization mixed even with forced bisexual acts and sexual humiliation. While others don’t really get that much into sexual acts at all, being interested entirely with the dressing and behaving, with no intercourse. Just something done for themselves. It seems like it’s a very broad fetish.
And I wonder if the “forced” crowd really should be lumped in with the “choice” people. Like those into forced feminization, if its really the feminization that they are into or more the idea of humiliation, sexual domination and forced femdom activity.
While the ones who choose to be sissies, and get fully into all it entails by choice, if they are really the true “sissy” community, while the others are more BDSM.
I don’t know if there is internal conflict within the sissy community. I’m not trying to be funny, it’s just that within each general group there always seems to be factions that see things differently.
Like, is there conflict between that forced feminization group who seems to like it more femdom, sexual and even humiliating, and then those who are more lifestyle-ish? Do the lifestyle-ish people feel the BDSM types are a mockery of what they are in some way?
Like I keep saying, I’m not trying to insult anyone, so if my phrasing is off, don’t read it that way because that’s not how it’s meant. I’m into things people call “sick” so I’m not gonna start throwing stones at anyone (like femdom cbt).
I know Domina Amanda has written things about both forced feminization and true sissy training, usually from a very sexual viewpoint as would fit a femdom blog. But when talking to actual people she naturally treats each as an individual, beyond just sexual domination and fetish play.
I know her move to San Francisco was partly motivated by a transgender friend she has and works with. She said something once about the only men she truly respects on a level anywhere close to her own are ones born in a man’s body, but with the soul of a female.
(I‘ve noticed also that the shemale references she has made have always been from the stance of domination and shemale dominatrix, like that shemale enforcer she wrote about in one of her BDSM stories. I think she likes their company and sharing slaves with them).
But when I’ve asked her things like this she tends to say the best people to ask are people who are this themselves. They deserve the respect of being allowed to explain how they feel, if they want to, without anyone outside trying to define or limit them, no matter what the intention. Just be open minded and remember that there are always people who will think what you are into is just as weird as what you might think they are.
She gets hostile around negativity towards this subject because I think she has a transsexual friend who was hurt in some way, but that‘s none of my business. It‘s just a guess off of reactions I‘ve seen her have to idiots in some chat rooms.
Well, anyway, that’s what I was thinking about today and I wrote it all off the top of my head as I am sure you can tell. I’ll probably have a bunch of people telling me what I’ve said isn’t “correct” but that’s fine. I’m not trying to define anything, just wondering so people saying constructive things isn’t a problem.
And the title to this post – In no way do I expect to find a single “why” out there, nor do I think there is one. People have all different reasons and personalities.
- maleslave

